Quote from aroX123 :

you can get it free for pc, just download torrent, if you want i can help you get it

You really are trying to get yourself banned...

Quote from zeugnimod :

http://www.google.com/search?h ... nG=Google-Suche&meta=

http://www.google.com/search?h ... &btnG=Suche&meta=

LOL google is your friend =)

this thread is my laugh for the day, a guy that works on body parts telling someone that works on cars and racecars about the different components...

For my [art in this thread I was only trying to be funny...just probably a bit agressive about it.

dustin...you can stop now

Sorry, this community will take Tristans and Ajp's comments over yours anyday. If there is so much supporting evidence for these theories, post up some links please to back you 'facts'.


With braking temps, when brakes can reach over 1000f how is 10-20 degrees going to cause serious differences in brake performance?

If nothing else Tristan and Ajp get their giggles for the day I know I am.

Personally I would have a good chat with Joe from eTM and Becky from the STCC. Both have had to stop their projects at various points because of the shear amount of effort required to produce a worthy broadcastable event could not be maintained.

Maybe it would be an option to assist Joe in producing his videos in some way? I don't know. I do know though that what you are wanting to accomplish has been attempted twice by two different people and they should be able to at least give you some good pointers.

Quote from Whitmore :

I feel the opposite - that we've seen the peak of the amateur and the professionals will increasingly leave the amateurs well behind.

So by definition you are saying that ALL professional drivers are better than ALL amateur drivers? Sorry I disagree, that’s simply not true. There are many people out there that call themselves professionals and make a living off certain projects. But that alone does not make them efficient in their jobs.

Quote from AndroidXP :

You can stop stroking your dick now, thanks.

LOL My country is hotter than yours so that makes me right =)

Quote from Jamexing :

It is apparent that this forum has degenerated into such a childish finger pointing, mutually insulting, overly generalized, unfairly discriminative and sometimes downright dominated by Nazis.

Tristan an engineer? Oh my goodness, does he even know what this means without referencing:

G(s) = Y(s) / X(s) = (C(s).P(s)) / (1 + C(s).P(s))

Hint: if you're any good at Laplace Transforms and control theory you'll figure this out REAL fast. It's REALLY basic.

Go back under your bridge please, your talking out of your rear. Tristan has his head on strait and hasn't said a word that isn't relevant. Out of anyone on the forum he would have the most experience and knowledge of cars and what they are capable of, maintence and functions of the different systems within a car. He works on vehicles daily and keeps a single seater competitive in club racing.

Unlike a lot of the people on the forum, Tristan doesn't open his mouth unless he KNOWS the answer. He may make assumptions, but he backs them up and genuinely listens to others arguments. Sure he can condesending at times, but taken into context and backed by his knowledge this is more than acceptable.


So Jamexing, if you can show me that you have significant experience and knoweldge backed by educational training please go away, your talking utter bollocks. Even I can see that and I don't know much about cars. Tristan has not degraded you, only putting you in your place and calling utter bollocks bollocks, and not making it look like something it's not. But by the simple fact you said that factory brake systems on the skyline don't fade shows that you don't really know what your talking about. If you did you would have said something very different.

There is no brake system in the world that is fadeproof. Cars coming off the showroom floor would boil their brake fluid because of the requirements by law. If the rest of the system had performance parts that were capable from the factory, the fluid would boil off if the system was used properly and to the 'limits' of the system.

So in order for the brake system to be fade-proof as you said the drivers were either crap, or they too were talking bollocks.

Last edited by Christopher Raemisch, Mon 2 Jun 2008, 11:36.

Quote from benman :

4 hours away =[ lol. I'm in northamptonshire anyone going from tht area?

Oxfordshire here, trying to see if I can scrounge up the cash to go. I may play my birthday card a bit late and use it as an excuse to go. I am happy to pick anyone up on the way.

Quote from ajp71 :

iRacing just lost the its iLaser USP. Will be interesting to see if it makes any difference at all, presumably the costs can't have been that great if it is being released for free.

Nice to see =) It doesn't say to what detail they are going down to though for the scanning, I think thats where the huge cost will come in, if there is any, which I doubt.

Quote from ajp71 :

That sounds like a typical load of crap from you. People may have difficulty getting racing brakes up to temperature but by law road cars cannot use racing fluid which instantly renders a standard road car useless for serious track work.

=) Hmm, maybe I should reconsider using my high temp dot3 then... and wilwood BP150's and Hawk HP+ pads...


I think he might partially be right though, most people that would own an evo wouldn't know how to drive it, hence having no brake problems while on the track... thats my assumption anyways.

Quote from Shotglass :

i wonder what apple thinks about the name

Hehe, thats a good question, maybe we should ask them =)

Quote from rhys_02 :

is there any good free racing games?
a link would be nice please

http://www.iracing.com/

Give these guys a couple years

Cheers, I should have looked at the first post at the very bottom =)

Would it be possible to be able to have any Shift-N commands to be always shown on the screen? I cannot click on any drivers because when I move the mouse in the replay, it disappears and I have to tab through each driver to find the one I need.

Quote from franky500 :

theres hardly any when your not here Ben

Was a funny read that thread.. I dont know why anybody would ever think that was a good idea.

It has to be a joke, it was the persons first thread and post so I am guessing someone is having a laugh. It better anyways =)

BTW Franky, how's your servers now after the server move? =)

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

I'm half way through that forum, and I really really want to drink the glass of coke I have here, but anytime I go to take a sip I nearly spit the contents over my freshly cleaned monitor. The replies are much funnier than the actual post.

LOL yeah, thought everyone would get a laugh anyways =)

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Yeah. Heh. Calling it a clan makes it sound lame and childish, but calling it a team is totally different.

At least with a team it doesn't make me think of people with clubs beating each other up =)

What would you all think if we had the auto adjusting proportioning valve that many of the news cars have factory? I cannot remember what they are called exactly now, been a long day... I know the reason behind them is to bring the system operating pressure up as fast as possible, but for me it means, especially with an after market front brake system, that I don't really have to worry about rear lockup. But would this be something we would want to see in LFS for 'realisms sake' especially if a newer road car was brought in.

Quote from Electrik Kar :

On my count, 4. My point was, there have been no new fantasy cars for ages.

Hopefully we won't get another 'fake' car again =)

LOL =)

Well I came from the States where it's privatized. Virtually every company will have their own health scheme and you only pay a tiny fraction for doctor visits ect. My brother pays $16 in premiums and something like $20 per doctor visit, with optical, dental, which is a bit more on top of the $16 but nothing like my 180pounds a month I pay for here, which isn't very good IMO and the UK is going privatized.

True if you don't have a job you don't have healthcare, but it's not hard to find a job if you need healthcare, I believe McDonalds has healthcare too. If you don't have a job and are in need of medical attention you should have gotten a job and contributed to society.

Saying that if there is a legitmate reason why you cannot work, or other legitimate reasons there are government plans in place to help.

It may be different in Finland, from what I heard many UK'ers head there for dental treatment and other ailments because they can get better care there, but for the UK it's not working very well and I am unimpressed.

:edit: this is my only post on this, not going to respond, getting too close to politics and religion, and I don't like talking about those...

Last edited by Christopher Raemisch, Thu 29 May 2008, 20:11.

Quote from ajp71 :

Sorry I'm still lost with your argument, fuel is nearly three times the cost here whether you use the exchange rate or peoples' earnings, how can you possibly argue it's not that much more?

Hehe, it happens alot, I have this was of not explaining things very well it seems =)

I don't know how to explain it well really other than the cost per unit, barring anyones exchange rates ect. is just under 1.00 for one liter of fuel in the states to 1.10 here.

There are many other factors that make the % of annual income spent on fuel much greater in this country than the USA, but when looking at the monetary cost per unit they are roughly the same.

Factor in all these other things like total annual income, tax ect. the USA in general has much more expendable income to be able to 'afford' paying for extra fuel where people in the UK have considerably less expendable income and less flexibility in being able to pay for the rising fuel costs.

I think part of my miscommunication was when it would cost more to pay for fuel in the states, that is wrong. People pay more, but thats because they use that much more fuel than people in the UK.

An economist would know better, but thats how I look at it.

LOL Clans in LFS =)

Quote from ajp71 :

They earn more than we do before you take the exchange rate into account ($46000 vs. $35300 GDP per capita in 2007). By the time you take that into account we're paying more than 3 times as much. I know in the US though there is more of a diversity of income and I also realise that a lot of poor people reckon they should be able to afford to drive around in cars with huge old V8s but in the end of the day there are plenty of people over here who struggle to afford to run cars which drink less than a third of what people drive over there.

I agree, there are other factors making the price of fuel expensive here, but fuel itself isn't that much more expensive than the USA. This country has shit wages, high tax, and no housing.... why am I living here again? Have 30 acres waiting for me in the states...bloody women... When buying anything other than food 1/2 of our money is gone in tax by the time you add in NI, NHS, VAT... thats not including council tax...

Well currently I just paid 1.25 a liter to fuel it up today 41 pounds later I had a full tank... that was only to fill 3/4 of a 45 liter tank =)

When I was in the states last in the beginning of May it was 3.60 which wasn't bad for me because I made pounds so I could do the exchange rate so it was something like 50p a liter.

For someone in the states who doesn't make pounds it costs just under 1.00 per liter compared to our 1.10. The exchange rate cannot be used because there is no exchange of currency happening. They are paying dollars while we are paying pounds while they are making dollars and we are making pounds.

This is separate from the fact that the average worker in the US makes 1/3- 1/2 again more than the British worker, and pays less in taxes, so % wise people lose less of their income in fuel if they had cars with the same gas millage, but they don't so they pay more per mile than someone from the UK =) But it's their own fault... My Brother has a Dodge Ram with the 5.7liter Hemi. He puts in about $200 in fuel a week, insane. I told him he needs to get a car, but he won't listen.

Quote from Jamexing :

I sense a very disturbing trend here. Remove every setup option ,even when its terribly realistic is many ways. Next, someone asks to remove toe settings when it is so blindingly obvious that all LFS cars have adjustable front toe in their RL equivalents, with only a small select group i.e. FWDs that should have fixed rear toe due to trailing arm suspension. Then ask for removal of brake bias adjustment when anyone who SERIOUSLY tracks his his car would have a brake balance bar anyway.

A bit OT but not all FWD's have rear trailing arm suspension. I have struts in which I can adjust camber, toe, and caster to an extent from the factory, granted the parameters are small, but still.

Correct me if I am wrong but brake systems 'could' be adjusted to be able to do what we do in LFS (IE set 100% braking at the point where the brakes lock) Changing pad compounds, rotor diamters, piston sizes would all change the braking to how people set up their cars in LFS.

If the brakes we get with our wheels were pressure sensative I wouldn't see a problem with changing how the brake force is done, but we have position sensitive and it works fine.